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raw photo processor (RPP) +Fuji X PRO 1
#1
Posted 04 May 2012 - 12:22 AM
#2
Posted 04 May 2012 - 06:18 AM
These were my settings:
I just added a few minor tweaks to the TIFF in Aperture. Very old-school and a huge difference to the OOC JPEGs.
Astia (internal RAW converter with identical Aperture tweaks):
Provia (internal RAW converter with identical Aperture tweaks):
#3
Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:30 AM
While it only seems to work with half resolution as of now, I like the good highlight recovery and the film-like look you can get from it. This is from a DR400 RAW (F1.8/75mm Voigtländer Heliar):
I get full size images by checking VNG.
#4
Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:45 AM
I get full size images by checking VNG.
I get a crash when using VNG.
#5
Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:06 AM
I get a crash when using VNG.
No crashes using VNG with my computer. Mac OS 10.7.3 RPP 4.5.0 (1518)
#6
Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:08 AM
No crashes using VNG with my computer. Mac OS 10.7.3 RPP 4.5.0 (1518)
No luck with 10.6.8
#7
Posted 04 May 2012 - 10:29 AM
#8
Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:18 PM
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#9
Posted 04 May 2012 - 02:11 PM
Crash Using Mac 0S 10.7.4 and RPP 4.5.0 (1518) under certain circumstances.No crashes using VNG with my computer. Mac OS 10.7.3 RPP 4.5.0 (1518)
If you chooses to Enable The Highlight Recovery AND to use VNG, then it crashes, otherwise no problem. So if you want VNG, remove Highlight Recovery.
Cameras : X-Pro1, X-E1, X100, X100S, X10
Lenses : XF-18mm, XF-35mm, XF-60mm
#10
Posted 04 May 2012 - 11:11 PM
Because they really are underexposed. By default RPP shows images as they captured by camera in Raw with only necessary tonal range adjustments and they may look darker than you expect. Usually this happens because your camera light meter is calibrated to some low gray point value by camera vendor. Most (if not all) modern DSLR cameras do this to preserve more highlights and most of other converters quietly apply compensation to your image to correct that. There are two ways to resolve this - apply exposure correction in RPP or adjust the camera light meter. For exposure correction try value 0.7 in Compressed Exposure field. (...) Adjusting your camera meter is a more complex procedure and I’d recommend this option only for advanced users who understand how metering works and all possible implications. You’ll have to check if your camera has option to apply some kind of metering bias. This option called differently for different cameras and you may need to dig through your camera manual."
Has Fuji applied this common lower light meter value in their camera or, on the opposite, is it why the X-Pro1 seems to expose very slightly more than other cameras?
#11
Posted 05 May 2012 - 06:33 AM
#12
Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:41 AM
#13
Posted 05 May 2012 - 08:53 AM
My initial impression is that the quality of the files is very good. the interpolation of the unique fuji sensor layout is implemented well and give nice sharp details that are on par with fuji's own results.
However I do have problems with the color red. Whatever I do I get an orange red. Perhaps it's due to my lack of understanding how to develop files with rpp. Has someone else experienced this or know how to correct the red channel in rpp? I have included a couple of examples below. (B.T.W. I do know that each raw convertor has it's own interpretation of RAW data and it will never be the same as the in camera conversion but the red color is way off in this case)
The 100% crop below show how nicely the interpolation algorithms renders the details from this portrait (60mm lens). But the skin tones are a too orange...

This is a comparison from an out of camera jpeg (Provia, with some levels adjustments). Just as detailed but the skin tones (and especially the lips) look much more natural

This photo of a deep red rose shows this effect in an extreme way (although in this case the rose does have a nice soft look with a lot of texture compared to the rpp version)

Compare this with the original jpeg (Velvia). Intense red (a bit clipped though) but it lacks a bit of texture.
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#14
Posted 05 May 2012 - 10:53 AM
As for the rose, the difference is obviously there, but it's hard to tell what's nicer. I'm pretty sure the JPEG is more like it looks like in reality, but then again, is that really the point? The lack of texture compared to the RPP version is amazing. The difference is more than "a bit", if you ask me.
I guess texture may be the issue here. RPP appears to give priority to texture, the internal engine gives it to color.
#15
Posted 05 May 2012 - 01:00 PM
I have looked at the other photos of the portrait and the flowers.
Rendering of either is a matter of taste I think.
For me I can like either of the two flower renderings but I prefer the lower of the two pictures for the portrait.
Just my 2 cents.
Still learning after all these years!
Website http://www.jmknights.com
#16
Posted 05 May 2012 - 01:03 PM
As for the portrait, I vastly prefer your RPP version. It's so much more film-like. Love it!
I feel the same. The RPP version has the charm of film. It's the one i'd keep.
#17
Posted 05 May 2012 - 01:38 PM
As for the portrait, I vastly prefer your RPP version. It's so much more film-like. Love it! Others pay big bucks to get such results with film simulation PP software.
As for the rose, the difference is obviously there, but it's hard to tell what's nicer. I'm pretty sure the JPEG is more like it looks like in reality, but then again, is that really the point? The lack of texture compared to the RPP version is amazing. The difference is more than "a bit", if you ask me.
I guess texture may be the issue here. RPP appears to give priority to texture, the internal engine gives it to color.
I've been playing somewhat more with rpp, the results I get intrigue me. Maybe it's because as you say that the results are more film like, but there's definitely something to the files. They're not as accurate in color but somehow very pleasing to the eye and very detailed. I processed another portrait of my daughter and I got very lively results. This time I used one of the film simulations and that gave a lot of additional pop to the file. I think the contrast and tonality in her face is stunning! I printed this one out on my epson 3800 and man I got a really fantastic print! For the rose I have mixed feelings. The result is nice soft but with lots of texture details (amazing as you say). But it bugs me a bit that the color is to far off. I'm going to reprocess a couple of more files to see what I get. Fun times ahead
RPP using K64 film simulation
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Out of camera jpg looks a bit bland compared to the rpp version. The shirt, although more accurate to the fabric color just doesn't look as pleasing and has color clipping that ruins details. (I probably could improve upon that though)
#18
Posted 05 May 2012 - 03:03 PM
#19
Posted 05 May 2012 - 03:15 PM
Still learning after all these years!
Website http://www.jmknights.com
#20
Posted 05 May 2012 - 04:47 PM
OOC jpeg

RPP raw with default profile

RPP raw with custom ColorChecker icc profile
#21
Posted 05 May 2012 - 05:49 PM
The new beta version :
Cameras : X-Pro1, X-E1, X100, X100S, X10
Lenses : XF-18mm, XF-35mm, XF-60mm
#22
Posted 05 May 2012 - 06:56 PM
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Another typical result from this unusable camera.
#23
Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:09 PM
#24
Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:01 PM
Excellent.Works nicely. I have just reprocessed and old pre-production favorite, using K64 and some custom Aperture treatment:
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Another typical result from this unusable camera.
#25
Posted 05 May 2012 - 10:02 PM
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#26
Posted 06 May 2012 - 12:43 AM
I made a custom icc profile within RPP from a shot of a ColorChecker chart. This seems to help getting more accurate colors. Shot below from X-Pro1 with 60mm Fujinon.
That's a big difference in color. Thanks for making the profile available, i'm going to try it out
RPP doesn't correct the 18mm lens, so in conjunction with RPP utilizing the entire sensor area, you get quite different results in comparison with the OOC JPEGs.
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I like both your samples a lot! The portrait of the old lady is stunning!
It's great new processing options like rpp are getting available now...
#27
Posted 06 May 2012 - 03:57 AM
post no.60
#28
Posted 06 May 2012 - 05:18 AM
That's a big difference in color. Thanks for making the profile available, i'm going to try it out
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Be sure to set white balance to "as shot" when using the profile.
#29
Posted 06 May 2012 - 06:24 AM

Lee
#30
Posted 06 May 2012 - 06:27 AM
Only in UK!!
How do you find the output compares to straight from DCRaw ?
Still learning after all these years!
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