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#1 Wideaperture

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 04:50 PM

Not sure whether this has been discussed in a round-a-bout way on this forum.....but

I found this amazing tip from the Steve Huff Blog

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TIP: A $50 adapter is needed to screw on a UV filter. BUT, a 49mm filter can be screwed on backward to bypass this. Yay! I quickly discovered that shooting macro extends the lens from the body though, hitting the UV filter. Aha! That’s why the adapter is needed. Anyway, a 49mm can be stacked atop another with glass removed to fix this.

Works a treat and saves money plus having to wait on a order for the Fuji adaptor ring!
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Posted 18 April 2011 - 04:57 PM

On top of the reversed filter, how about a cheap clone of the vented lens hood?

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The auction says "double-threaded", which I assume means there is a 49mm female thread inside. If so, that means the hood would be a direct screw-on for the reversed UV filter trick!

I sent them a message asking if it also has a female 49mm thread but have yet to receive a reply :( And from the pictures it's hard to tell. Worst case, I'll be waiting on eBay clones of the Fuji hood to appear.

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 08:19 PM

On top of the reversed filter, how about a cheap clone of the vented lens hood?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Leica-M-49mm-49-mm-metal-vented-Lens-Hood-Shade-New-/130508300861?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e62e6a23d#ht_1417wt_1140

The auction says "double-threaded", which I assume means there is a 49mm female thread inside. If so, that means the hood would be a direct screw-on for the reversed UV filter trick!

I sent them a message asking if it also has a female 49mm thread but have yet to receive a reply :( And from the pictures it's hard to tell. Worst case, I'll be waiting on eBay clones of the Fuji hood to appear.


I had some extra balance on my paypal account, so I picked one up to try out. If the seller doesn't contact you, I'll post what I find when it gets here.

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Posted 18 April 2011 - 09:58 PM

Okay... I'm not quite understanding how this would work. Since the X100 has a 49mm male thread, you have to use a reversed filter to thread on backwards. Likewise, you would have to turn the hood backwards to get it on. Even with a reversed 49mm filter, it's still offering a 49mm male thread to the hood, so you'd be trying to put a 49mm male to a 49mm male. What you need is a 49mm female to female adapter, which is basically just a tube with a 49mm thread all the way through the middle. Is that what the Fuji made adapter is?

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 06:33 AM

Brett, I'm assuming that's what the Fuji adaptor is.

Anyway, it appears a simple 52mm-49mm step-down does the same as its female 49mm thread runs all the way through. See this pic:

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Not sure if this has been suggested before...

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 07:20 AM

Brett, I'm assuming that's what the Fuji adaptor is.

Anyway, it appears a simple 52mm-49mm step-down does the same as its female 49mm thread runs all the way through. See this pic:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanthian/5631123655/

Not sure if this has been suggested before...

That is correct.
I have used a Step Up and a Step Down pair of 49-52 adapters to produce a ring that gives me a 52 mm filter attachment point (female) as I have lots of 52mm filters.
To get 49mm female threaded ring then you either need to get two 49-52 Step Up adapters and glue then together. Or find a machine shop to make you a 49mm internally threaded tube (thin walled) out of delrin or aluminium. The second option is better but more costly.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 01:26 AM

Not sure whether this has been discussed in a round-a-bout way on this forum.....but

I found this amazing tip from the Steve Huff Blog

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TIP: A $50 adapter is needed to screw on a UV filter. BUT, a 49mm filter can be screwed on backward to bypass this. Yay! I quickly discovered that shooting macro extends the lens from the body though, hitting the UV filter. Aha! That’s why the adapter is needed. Anyway, a 49mm can be stacked atop another with glass removed to fix this.

Works a treat and saves money plus having to wait on a order for the Fuji adaptor ring!


Hi Wideap,

Can you help us post a picture of this setup on your cam?

Thanks!!

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 11:56 AM

I think I'm just going to buy the adaptor ring, then visit Mr and Mrs Ebay, to purchase a metal 49mm screw-in Leica-esque vented hood (you can get them for around £10)

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 03:54 PM

I purchased a 52 to 49mm step-down ring on eBay for $2.50. It arrived today and took me 5 minutes to lathe off the black finish...or use a 400 grit sandpaper.

This ring has a 6mm total thread depth and would convert the X100 lens into a standard 49mm female thread for any standard caps, filters, hoods... I don't have a camera yet but pictures show the male thread on the lens is ~3 threads at 0.75mm or 2.25mm. Should be enough thread depth left for attachments

I left the 52mm male thread end alone, just in case...; or I can lathe it into a smooth silver finish ring.

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#10 brett maxwell

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 05:08 PM

Yesterday I ordered a 52>49 step down ring and the 49mm vented metal hood, both off ebay. Total was about $15 and will hopefully arrive in a few days. I'll report back with the results and some photos.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 06:45 PM

Yesterday I ordered a 52>49 step down ring and the 49mm vented metal hood, both off ebay. Total was about $15 and will hopefully arrive in a few days. I'll report back with the results and some photos.


Hi Brett

That is great news. Can you please provide link to the auction for 52>49mm step down and 49mm vented hood?

Thanks

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 07:25 PM

I second the above request! :)

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 07:30 PM

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I too ordered these, so the race is on, Brett ;)

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 07:32 PM

Great news! That's exactly what I was considering.

Ordered myself a 52->49 stepdown and vented hood as well. Purchased the hood from

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, the cheapest I could find (mind you, they're all sub-$12 anyway).

#15 brett maxwell

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 09:30 PM

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I too ordered these, so the race is on, Brett ;)


That's the same two I ordered, but I also ordered another step-down ring since they're only $4 and might be a little different. The other one I ordered:

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 01:35 AM

A 49mm hood with thread also for 49mm filter cannot coexist in the same segment of the "wall"...or the wall would have disappeared. :unsure: Usually, the male thread portion for the lens will be have a flat wall on the inside; and the female thread for the filter will have a flat portion on the outside.

For mounting such hoods onto the X100 male-threaded lens, the male thread portion will have to be machined off...easy enough...for me.

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It is just as easy for me to cut off a 18mm segment...and lathe the black outside finish off.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 03:19 AM

For those of you using a step down ring, can you please post a picture of the setup?
I'm curious what it looks like.... as well as curious to see which side (towards the
camera, or away from the camera) the male threaded 52mm side is facing.

Thanks.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 06:57 AM

I don't have mine yet, but found this picture on Flickr of the setup:

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You can see it's reversed, so the 49mm female thread goes over the lens barrel and the 52mm male thread is exposed. The important thing is that the female 49mm thread runs all the way through the ring (still behind the 52mm thread), allowing a 49mm filter to be attached from the other end.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 02:50 PM

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Will it hit my polarizing filter in macro mode? I have the B+W 49mm SLIM Circular polarising filter

#20 chiggah

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 10:43 PM

I have a question - will the 52-49mm step down adapter fit both the vented hood and polarizing filter together?

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 02:35 PM

Here's mine, I think it's great!

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The hood fits a 49mm lens cap:
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Posted 25 April 2011 - 03:25 PM

Perfect!

Is that a UV filter under the hood? Does macro mode hit it?

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 04:02 PM

no filter, just 52>49 step down ring, hood, and lens cap.

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 11:41 PM

@brett, can you confirm if it will fit a 49mm UV filter under the hood ?

I have this and not sure if it will fit

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 12:02 AM

@brett, can you confirm if it will fit a 49mm UV filter under the hood ?

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I can't, I do not have any 49mm filters. The lens comes out a tiny bit when you're focusing close, and I guess it may hit a filter, in which case you could always thread it into the 49mm female of the hood.

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 01:04 AM

no filter, just 52>49 step down ring, hood, and lens cap.


Hi Brett,

Your 52 to 49 step down ring has a 52 male side and 49 female side
with the 49 female threads running all the way through on the inside
right?

Curious.. is the 52 male side facing the camera (facing your face) or
facing away from the camera towards the subject? I can't quite tell
from the pictures. Looks like facing towards your subject?

Thanks!
James

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 07:00 AM

Here's mine, I think it's great!

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The hood fits a 49mm lens cap:
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Brett,
Confusing?
You have a 52 to 49 step down ring male 52 and a femal 49, your leica hood is a 49 female theread. How will this work?
BTW,
When you remove the the outside cover ring on the X100 you get a male 49mm thread I think as I do not have the camera yet so...
Your foto of the camera looks great but what is the final setup sequence, IE eBay parts inks?
Thanks for all the info on this!
John

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 07:19 AM

Brett,
Confusing?
You have a 52 to 49 step down ring male 52 and a femal 49, your leica hood is a 49 female theread. How will this work?
BTW,
When you remove the the outside cover ring on the X100 you get a female 49mm thread I think as I do not have the camera yet so...
Your foto of the camera looks great but what is the final setup sequence?
Thanks for all the info on this!
John


On the end of the lens there's a male 49mm thread. The 49-52 step-down has a female thread the whole way through. The hood has a 49mm male thread at the base, then a female thread that I can't quite figure out inside of the hood itself. When I tried mounting a 49mm filter inside of those threads it just sort of spun around and never caught the thread. I figure this means either that thread is more than 49mm, or theres space between where the hood threads start and the filter threads end :mellow:

Edit: Oh also Brett sweet pictures of your setup, I'll be envious until the box finally shows up on my doorstep ;)

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 08:18 AM

...then a female thread that I can't quite figure out inside of the hood itself.


I was hoping it had a female 49mm thread inside the hood. I never got a firm answer when asking sellers on eBay.

It's really a 49mm female thread inside the hood? And not just ribs throughout?

Cheers.

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 09:43 AM

Hi Brett,

Your 52 to 49 step down ring has a 52 male side and 49 female side
with the 49 female threads running all the way through on the inside
right?

Curious.. is the 52 male side facing the camera (facing your face) or
facing away from the camera towards the subject? I can't quite tell
from the pictures. Looks like facing towards your subject?

Thanks!
James


Correct on the first question. As for the direction, it can be used either way with no real difference. In those photos I had the 52mm side towards the camera, but since then I've flipped it around so it's towards the hood. The only minor advantage I find to this direction is that it leaves a channel next to the MF ring making it a little easier to grab.




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