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Have the WCL and TCL ruined the simplicity of the X100/s? Discuss

Discussion in 'X100F, X100T, X100S, X100, and X70' started by Richard_R, Jun 29, 2014.

  1. trainer

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    It comes down to circumstances and opinion as far as owning and using the convertors. Nobody's wrong or right. Bud has his primes that cover the convertors so he has no need or want of them as he feels he is better serves by the primes. My only prime is a 56 so I find them very useful and find them of good quality while others do not. Horses for courses.
     
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    I have both the WCL and TCL and have only used them to see if I liked them. I have never used the TCL and have used the WCL twice in the last two years plus. IMHO, I wasted my money. I've tried the classified a couple of times with no luck. I use my X-E2s for 99% of my shots. Still have my X100LE and X-100T and try to remember to keep the batteries charged. I guess I'm just getting to old to go out and shoot.
     
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    I bought the x100f because of the leaf shutter feature for off camera flash and portrait work. In bright light, using the converter does make things simpler in a way since I don't lose power from the flash by having to go to hss mode. Simplicity is a relative notion. I can make my X-T2 simple by just going out and using one lens. TCL's don't make things simpler or more complicated. They are just tools. Complexity comes from how they are used.

    Interesting read from an old thread.
     
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    There is a simple solution to this.
    Buy a camera for each converter and keep a camera as designed.
    I have the Nikon wideangle converter whoch works well for me.
    I use it so occasionally that it is almost superfluous.

    However the teleconverter I purchased was a TC x2.2 that hardly vignettes and so it is stuck on my X100 while my X100T is pristine.
    I love both and they serve me well.
     
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    Yep. I used to have 2 X100 original. One bare and one with WCL.
    Served me well, now I have the F I can only afford one camera...maybe one day..
     
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    Which TC x2.2 did you use for your X100? I'm interested.
     
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    Here is a synopsis of my two/three years of searching.....

    X100 teleconverter hunt to get a teleconverter that gave me 50mm equivalent on a X100.

    Early on in the hunt.
    I have bought a x2 tele converter that attaches using a 52/49 step down ring to the 49mm attachment point.

    When used at f2-f4 there is no vignette but there is increasing vignette as the aperture decreases towards f16 but no more than a darkening of the edge corners.


    Here is a link to the product.

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    I feel that a 55/58/62mm attachment might reduce the vignetting but I would need to check this out.

    Also for me I want an equivalent of a 90-105mm lens on a film camera so a x3 converter is what is required.


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    OK here are some sample images. See my gallery or the X100 forum thread about TC.

    EXIF available.

    Unfortunately no tripod so last image is probably a little extra soft due to camera shake as it was taken at 1/40, f11.



    All images taken with x2 telephoto add on lens as listed before.

    Processed in LR 3.4.1 with standard sharpening on output. No tweaks!!

    All taken at ISO 200.


    X100-1-730.jpg ==> 1/600 f2.8 - very slight vignette

    X100-1-731.jpg ==> 1/150 f5.6 - more noticeable vignette

    X100-1-732.jpg ==> 1/400 f11 - very noticeable vignette


    Images taken at f2.0 show no vignette.



    Last image of my dog.

    X100-1-735.jpg ==> 1/200 f5.6 - vignette noticeable.

    I think these images are in my Gallery on the forum.

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    The next converter is a x2 converter made in China.

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    It says on the TC ........

    NEEWER Digital High Definition x2 Telephoto Lens JAPAN OPTICS.


    I got it off eBay from UK supplier. Here is the same item.

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    It has a 52mm thread.


    I use it attached to the X100 via two step rings so that I get a 52-49 fit directly onto the lens.



    In this mode you get a very small vignette at f5.6 and it reduces to almost zero at f2.

    Synopsis

    NEEWER Digital High Definition x2 Telephoto Lens

    Here is a recent image at f2.0 with x2.0 converter. No vignette at f2.0 but vignette starts to appear at f4/5.6l

    Small jpg converted from RAW. Ziggy X100-1-1772a.jpg



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    NEEWER Digital High Definition x2 Telephoto Lens

    Here is a recent image at f2.0 with x2.2 converter. Notice slight vignette at f2.0 which gets worse as you stop down.

    Small jpg converted from RAW. Sapphire X100-1-1775.jpg


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    Opteka x3.2 tele-extender lens 52mm filter attachment.


    Large vignette at all apertures, central area good sharpness.

    Not useful, in fact a waste of money.


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    My current best converter.


    iXT Teleconverter x2.2 tele-extender lens 58mm filter attachment.
    It attaches to my camera via two stepping rings used in an inserted step.

    No vignettes or only very slight at max aperture, some vignette at f16.

    Best or as good as the NEEWER X2.0

    EDIT: See next post for examples of many of these teleconverters.

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    This thread provided the impetus for me to search for a good telephoto.

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    It also shows example photos and images of the teleconverters themselves as well as results.
     

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