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New Xe-3 question

Discussion in 'X-E1, X-E2, X-E2S and X-E3' started by dadopic, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:01 AM.

  1. dadopic

    dadopic Premium Member

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    I just got out of the store with a brand new Xe3 , spent an hour first alone and then with the help of many clerks that work there and no one could figure out hos to find out the shutter count in the menus.
    in the end we took a small jepg and upload it on line on 3 different sites and yet, no use.
    I guess the camera produce new file extention naming and therefore the sites could not find it.
    bottom line:
    how do you find out how many aquisitons with your xe3 were taken?
    thanks
     
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    There is an Image Count in the EXIF MakerNotes, you'll need exiftool or something similar to read it from the image.

    No idea how accurate it is or if it can be reset.
     
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    Hello
    There is no "shutter count" option in the menu of any Fujifilm X Camera Body.
    (as it exists, by example, with the FUJI S5 PRO).

    The JPEG and RAW files do not have any exact informations, at least for consumers. This must be different for fujifilm technicians.

    From a file (raw or jpeg), and with some softwares, you can view the approximate number of times the shutter has been released. But other actions may also increment the counter, for example turning the camera off, changing the viewfinder display selection, or choosing playback mode.
     
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    Just curious, why would you want to know the shutter count on a brand new camera?
     
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    In my experience of over 10,000 images on the X-T2 the ImageCount in the EXIF is completely accurate (or at least predictable). After looking at a few X-E3 samples it may well work the same way.

    On the X-T2 ImageCount increments for each image shot with either the electronic or mechanical shutter (either still or video clip).

    Raw and jpeg shot together count as 1 image and get the same ImageCount.

    Each raw,jpeg or raw/jpeg pair in a set of bracketed shots count individually (including film simulation which I don't believe actually involve shutter actuations).

    Raw conversions in camera receive the same ImageCount as the original raw file.

    Haven't found of any way to reset ImageCount (but Fuji support could well know of a way of doing it).

    Also haven't found yet any program not based on EXIFTOOL which can read ImageCount from the EXIF.
     
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    I do not question what you say.
    I just tried Exif Tools (Version Number : 10.68)
    first on Windows7,
    and on Windows10.

    I would like to tell you what I noticed.
    I am not starting a debate, I believe you.
    I don't understand where I am wrong.

    With Fuji files, I can't get a consistent figure.
    The "Image count" always seems to be the number 1.
    But the File name coult be DSCF6324.jpg ( or another number)

    With Niikon files, the name is : "shutter count" and seems right.
    Shutter Count : 6576

    I hope you believe me. But I can upload an ExifTool screen or report (txt) , or a Fuji JPEG file, if you want.
     
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    Which camera? The X-Pro 2 does this.
     
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    That's right, I failed to specify the body type.
    This is an X-Pro2.
    It seems to me that I also noticed with an X100 (the first one), I have to check.

    It is quite curious to have this feature on a body, and not others (or vice versa.)
     
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    I'm not aware that there's a shutter count function on the X-Pro2.

    All you can get is an image count - but that figure isn't reliable because it's possible to re-set the image counter. I never re-set this counter, but if I were to sell my camera and the buyer would like to know the shutter count, he'd have to settle with the image count and trust me that I never re-set the counter.
     
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    Why is it that only the x100 series have a dedicated shutter count function, but not any Fuji ILC bodies do?
     
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    Not to split hairs - but there is a difference between Image Count (stored in the EXIF) and Frame Count (which is part of the file name and can be reset)
     
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    Just checked with my X100 ( the first one) and pictures from it.
    - There is no "Image count" in the EXIFs.
    - There is no "Shutter count" in the EXIFs.
    - There is no "Shutter count" in the Menu. ( Only the X100, the first one)


    I do not have the X100S , X100T nor X100F.
    But I just read in the manuals, that there is for these three bodies, a "Shutter Count" in the Menu.

    With this phrase in the Manual : X100S (p91), X100T , X100F(p115).
    "View the approximate number of times the shutter has been released. Other actions may also increment the counter, for example turning the camera off, changing the viewfinder display selection, or choosing playback mode."
     

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